[DUG-TO] Great Topic - Making Money With Drupal
Andre Molnar
andre at becircle.com
Fri Nov 6 17:49:29 EST 2009
I'd be happy to offer any insights I have to the topic having been
working with Drupal for several years now in a few different contexts
- on my own
- in a team working on multiple projects
- in a team working on a single large project
One of the most interesting shifts in the last 24 months is 'Drupal
expertise' becoming a commodity. This of course being a direct result
of the explosive growth of Drupal and the number of people that are
intimately familiar with it.
Development shops don't benefit from economies of scale (since costs
rise with capacity). So as competition in Drupal development grows its
increasingly difficult to make a go at it by creating 'one off'
solutions for individual clients. Its not a good time to start a Drupal
development shop (and becoming less desirable to be a Drupal development
shop).
But, it is a very good time to come up with new Drupal based 'products'
and create a business plan around them. Examples include the products
coming out of Development Seed or Acquia. Drupal continues to be rough
around the edges when it comes to creating products (tough to deploy
upgrades for example), but its really getting much easier to build them.
Anyway, I'm starting to ramble a bit. Long story short, its an
interesting time in the Drupal world - and I'd be glad to join in the
conversation.
andre
Aidan Foster wrote:
> I'd love to hear what people are doing with Drupal as a part of their
> business models. I've got a small web development team and we've been
> moving more and more towards a Drupal focus over the last few years.
> Moving from static websites to Drupal based websites has required a
> completely different approach to estimating costs, and pitching clients.
> I'd love to learn more about how others are dealing with the issues
> related estimates, and their development cycle which are key parts to a
> project's profitability. I'd be happy to chip in my experiences either
> as an audience member, or as mini-presentation.
>
> Aidan Foster,
> Principal - Foster Interactive.
> afoster at fosterinteractive.com <mailto:afoster at fosterinteractive.com>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:08:37 -0500
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> Possible Monthly Session Topic
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> >
> > TITLE: "Making Money with Drupal"
> >
> > DESCRIPTION: Some individuals, and some organizations, have found ways
> > to make money with Drupal. But success requires a business model that
> > generates a positive financial balance, a model that is responsive to
> > market concerns and depends on available skills and experience.
> What are
> > successful Drupal business models? We've invited a panel of
> individuals
> > who have found ways to make money with Drupal. They will share their
> > experiences. Audience participation, as always, will be encouraged.
> >
> > I'm prepared to participate, either in the panel or in the
> audience. I'm
> > not sure who should be invited as panel members. I'm not even sure if
> > this is a topic that would be of general interest.
> >
> > Comments encouraged.
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> > Bob Fabian - www.fabian.ca <http://www.fabian.ca>
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> You might also want to add in a discussion about what are reasonable
> ways
> and amounts to contribute back to the Drupal community if you are making
> your livelihood as a Drupal professional.
>
> Personally, I focus on giving back to the CiviCRM project since most of
> Drupal projects involve it.
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> 2009/11/5 Joe Murray <joe.murray at jmaconsulting.biz
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> > You might also want to add in a discussion about what are
> reasonable ways
> > and amounts to contribute back to the Drupal community if you are
> making
> > your livelihood as a Drupal professional.
> >
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> This may even be a topic that can stand on its own merits.
>
> "Contributing back to the community" takes many, many forms, very few of
> which are acknowledged as legitimate. This community includes people
> with a
> wonderfully diverse set of skills and talents, though some are
> disproportionately over-valued and others under-valued.
>
> This characteristic is IMO an orthodoxy worthy of debate. It's found
> in many
> open source projects, but is strangely exaggerated within Drupal
> based on my
> experience.
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> I'd be happy to elaborate in a meeting if anyone's interested. If not,
> that's OK too.
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> - Evan
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> From: "Jocelyn Stretton" <jocelyn at ninjagirl.com
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> I rhink this is a great topic. Though at the same time, aside from
> developing other people's ideas I don't see how you directly can
> 'make money
> with drupal' without your own idea?
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