[DUG-TO] Next meeting dates?

[Julian Egelstaff]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the interest.  :-)  The basic focus of this idea is that 
you've got two different PHP apps on the same physical server, probably 
in the same domain.  You want to use features of both in the same 
"website" (whatever that means).  So what are the issues you face, at 
the PHP level, in doing that? 

It's the old question, "Why can't I use module X from this other CMS 
with Drupal?" 

So aside from shared sessions and single signon and all that stuff, why 
is this such a hard problem?  Is there any good reason that it's such a 
hard problem?  I can show some clear reasons, but I don't think they're 
very good ones.

I can show at least one working example of how you can achieve this, 
quickly, seamlessly and effectively.  But it's only due to extremely 
flexible architectural decisions in the other system, not in Drupal.

Alfresco is Java I think?  So you've got a whole other series of 
problems to deal with there, because you've got a completely different 
stack producing your website content.  Though if you can solve the 
single-signon/shared session issues, maybe that's what matters the most. 

I'm interested in why you can't easily take the code from two open 
source, PHP apps, written for open source, PHP CMSs, and run them in a 
complimentary way to produce a single user experience in what they 
perceive to be one website.  It's all open source code written in an 
open source language!  It shouldn't be so hard, but CMS developers don't 
think ahead, and they want to control the user experience, and figure if 
you want to do this kind of thing, you'll go use Zend Framework or 
something like that.

--Julian

dave at davecomeau.com wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> I was actually planning on skipping this session, but now you've got me
> interested...
>
> Although I'm relatively new to Drupal, I've been thinking about  how I
> could best combine a Java Struts based app with Drupal on the front end and
> also Drupal and Alfresco.
>
> Would this have any relevance to what you'll be talking about?  It sounds
> like it might.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:02:52 -0400, Julian Egelstaff
> <julian.egelstaff at freeformsolutions.ca> wrote:
>   
>> If there's no alternates waiting to step into the void, I could dust off 
>> a presentation I gave at FSOSS last fall about smushing Drupal together 
>> with another CMS to make a single website.
>>
>> It's a bit technical though...it's looking at how the CMSs build pages 
>> at the PHP level, and how you can draw bits from one into another.  So 
>> it is about Drupal, but not especially practical from a day to day 
>> perspective.  I think it's interesting from a programming and PHP point 
>> of view, and a CMS theory point of view (ie: what is a website...the 
>> domain?  the CMS?  the collection of pages that have the same theme?). 
>>
>> Is that of interest to anyone?  Be honest.  I don't want to spend an 
>> hour talking about something that people don't really want to know.  
>> It's a bad use of the group's time, and mine.  :-)
>>
>> --Julian
>>
>>     
>
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